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Law and Order Babykilling abortionist
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Rev. Donald Spitz
2006-01-08 22:43:12 UTC
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Enjoyed seeing that babykilling abortionist get whacked on TNT's Law and Order tonight. That babykilling abortionist reaped what she sowed.
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Galen Hekhuis
2006-01-08 23:09:08 UTC
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On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 17:43:12 -0500, "Rev. Donald Spitz"
Post by Rev. Donald Spitz
Enjoyed seeing that babykilling abortionist get whacked on TNT's Law and
Order tonight. That babykilling abortionist reaped what she sowed.
SAY THIS PRAYER: Dear Jesus, I am a sinner and am headed to
eternal hell because of my sins. I believe you died on the cross to
take away my sins and to take me to heaven. Jesus, I ask you
now to come into my heart and take away my sins and give me
eternal life. http://www.ArmyofGod.com
OR SAY THIS ONE:Dear Jesus, help me to never become as mean and spiteful as
this man has. Guard me from ever associating your name with rejoicing in
the misfortune of others. I know many wicked and evil people will try to
do sick and depraved things in your name, please make them all as obvious
as the person who calls himself "Rev. Donald Spitz."

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Ray Fischer
2006-01-08 23:58:00 UTC
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Enjoyed seeing that babykilling abortionist get whacked on TNT's Law and Order tonight.
The face of "Pro-Life".
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Billy
2006-01-09 00:02:33 UTC
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Enjoyed seeing that babykilling abortionist get whacked on TNT's Law and Order tonight.
The face of "Pro-Life".
The face of "right to choose"
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/PBA_Images/PBA4.BMP
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Ray Fischer
2006-01-09 00:12:54 UTC
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Post by Billy
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Rev. Donald Spitz
Enjoyed seeing that babykilling abortionist get whacked on TNT's Law and Order tonight.
The face of "Pro-Life".
The face of "right to choose"
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/PBA_Images/PBA4.BMP
Pro-liar porn.
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Billy
2006-01-09 00:27:15 UTC
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Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Billy
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Rev. Donald Spitz
Enjoyed seeing that babykilling abortionist get whacked on TNT's Law and Order tonight.
The face of "Pro-Life".
The face of "right to choose"
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/PBA_Images/PBA4.BMP
Pro-liar porn.
Put you head back in the sand, repeat over and over again, none of it is
real. Should make you fee better as long as no one shows you these
http://www.lizmichael.com/abortion.htm
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Erasmus "The Mannequin" Brown
2006-01-09 01:45:03 UTC
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Post by Billy
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Billy
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Rev. Donald Spitz
Enjoyed seeing that babykilling abortionist get whacked on TNT's Law
and
Post by Billy
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Billy
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Rev. Donald Spitz
Order tonight.
The face of "Pro-Life".
The face of "right to choose"
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/PBA_Images/PBA4.BMP
Pro-liar porn.
Put you head back in the sand, repeat over and over again, none of it is
real. Should make you fee better as long as no one shows you these
http://www.lizmichael.com/abortion.htm
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Jesus would have shot that doctor too, I suppose?
Billy
2006-01-09 01:50:12 UTC
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Post by Erasmus "The Mannequin" Brown
Post by Billy
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Billy
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Rev. Donald Spitz
Enjoyed seeing that babykilling abortionist get whacked on TNT's Law
and
Post by Billy
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Billy
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Rev. Donald Spitz
Order tonight.
The face of "Pro-Life".
The face of "right to choose"
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/PBA_Images/PBA4.BMP
Pro-liar porn.
Put you head back in the sand, repeat over and over again, none of it is
real. Should make you fee better as long as no one shows you these
http://www.lizmichael.com/abortion.htm
Post by Ray Fischer
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Ray Fischer
Jesus would have shot that doctor too, I suppose?
New the "right to choose" crowd would have crucified him first.
Ray Fischer
2006-01-09 06:28:24 UTC
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Post by Billy
Post by Erasmus "The Mannequin" Brown
Post by Billy
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Billy
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Rev. Donald Spitz
Enjoyed seeing that babykilling abortionist get whacked on TNT's Law
and
Post by Billy
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Billy
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Rev. Donald Spitz
Order tonight.
The face of "Pro-Life".
The face of "right to choose"
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/PBA_Images/PBA4.BMP
Pro-liar porn.
Put you head back in the sand, repeat over and over again, none of it is
real. Should make you fee better as long as no one shows you these
http://www.lizmichael.com/abortion.htm
Post by Ray Fischer
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Jesus would have shot that doctor too, I suppose?
New the "right to choose" crowd would have crucified him first.
Nobody who is pro-choice goes around killing people they don't like.
It's entirely the anti-choicers who resort to killing and terrorism.
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Billy
2006-01-09 16:40:31 UTC
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Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Billy
Post by Erasmus "The Mannequin" Brown
Post by Billy
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Billy
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Rev. Donald Spitz
Enjoyed seeing that babykilling abortionist get whacked on TNT's Law
and
Post by Billy
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Billy
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Rev. Donald Spitz
Order tonight.
The face of "Pro-Life".
The face of "right to choose"
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/PBA_Images/PBA4.BMP
Pro-liar porn.
Put you head back in the sand, repeat over and over again, none of it is
real. Should make you fee better as long as no one shows you these
http://www.lizmichael.com/abortion.htm
Post by Ray Fischer
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Jesus would have shot that doctor too, I suppose?
New the "right to choose" crowd would have crucified him first.
Nobody who is pro-choice goes around killing people they don't like.
It's entirely the anti-choicers who resort to killing and terrorism.
They go around killing people they do like.
Post by Ray Fischer
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Sparky Spartacus
2006-01-10 07:49:19 UTC
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Post by Erasmus "The Mannequin" Brown
Post by Billy
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Billy
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Rev. Donald Spitz
Enjoyed seeing that babykilling abortionist get whacked on TNT's Law
and
Post by Billy
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Billy
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Rev. Donald Spitz
Order tonight.
The face of "Pro-Life".
The face of "right to choose"
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/PBA_Images/PBA4.BMP
Pro-liar porn.
Put you head back in the sand, repeat over and over again, none of it is
real. Should make you fee better as long as no one shows you these
http://www.lizmichael.com/abortion.htm
Post by Ray Fischer
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Jesus would have shot that doctor too, I suppose?
You bet, especially if the doc was a fag! Jesus hates fags, just like me.
Barrnabas Collins
2006-01-10 20:39:48 UTC
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On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 02:49:19 -0500, Sparky Spartacus
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Post by Erasmus "The Mannequin" Brown
Jesus would have shot that doctor too, I suppose?
You bet, especially if the doc was a fag! Jesus hates fags, just like me.
Let me guess....you are one?
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Sparky Spartacus
2006-01-12 10:45:32 UTC
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Post by Barrnabas Collins
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 02:49:19 -0500, Sparky Spartacus
Post by Sparky Spartacus
Post by Erasmus "The Mannequin" Brown
Jesus would have shot that doctor too, I suppose?
You bet, especially if the doc was a fag! Jesus hates fags, just like me.
Let me guess....you are one?
You're projecting again, Barrnabas (a faggy name if I've ever seen one).
Ray Fischer
2006-01-09 06:27:18 UTC
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Post by Billy
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Billy
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Rev. Donald Spitz
Enjoyed seeing that babykilling abortionist get whacked on TNT's Law and
Order tonight.
The face of "Pro-Life".
The face of "right to choose"
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/PBA_Images/PBA4.BMP
Pro-liar porn.
Put you head back in the sand, repeat over and over again, none of it is
real.
Notice that you went to a anti-abortion web site that is riddled with
lies and misinformation.
Post by Billy
http://www.lizmichael.com/abortion.htm
More propaganda, with some latex and photoshop work done as well.
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Billy
2006-01-09 16:41:06 UTC
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Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Billy
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Billy
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Rev. Donald Spitz
Enjoyed seeing that babykilling abortionist get whacked on TNT's Law and
Order tonight.
The face of "Pro-Life".
The face of "right to choose"
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/PBA_Images/PBA4.BMP
Pro-liar porn.
Put you head back in the sand, repeat over and over again, none of it is
real.
Notice that you went to a anti-abortion web site that is riddled with
lies and misinformation.
Post by Billy
http://www.lizmichael.com/abortion.htm
More propaganda, with some latex and photoshop work done as well.
Deep, bury your head deep.
Post by Ray Fischer
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Spartakus
2006-01-09 17:13:58 UTC
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Post by Billy
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Billy
http://www.lizmichael.com/abortion.htm
More propaganda, with some latex and photoshop work done as well.
Deep, bury your head deep.
Time for a re-post...

Question to AllExperts.com: Those pictures of "aborted fetuses" that we see
on pro-life web sites - are they really what the presenters claim them to
be?

Answer from an Expert:

Nope, those pictures aren't what they are claimed to be. Most "aborted
fetuses" in photos shown by anti-choicers are either
spontaneously aborted (miscarried) fetuses or stillborn babies. Others are
rubber or plastic fakes.

Since a first-trimester suction abortion shreds the soft, jelly-like tissue
of the embryo/fetus and endometrium, there is nothing to photograph in such
cases. A midtrimester surgical abortion does produce fetal parts, which are
treated like plutonium under today's laws regarding the disposal of
"potentially infectious materials" containing possible human bloodborne
pathogens (OSHA regulations). They are not available for casual
photography.

Here's what Dr. Sarah Whippman, a British physician, had to say about the
typical "aborted fetuses" depicted at AbortionTV.com:

"I think that at least some of them are actually rubber models, simply
because the proportions are all wrong for them to be fetuses - in some of
them, the presence of an adult hand in the picture makes it possible to tell
the size of the supposed embryo or fetus, yet the proportion of head and
limbs to trunk is all wrong for a fetus of this size. So at least some of
them seem to be fakes. Many of the others look like term or near term
babies, so it seems highly improbable that these specimens resulted from
abortion - I suspect that at least a few photographs of macerated
stillbirths have also been included and passed off as pictures of abortions.
I've seen abortions, and they look nothing like the pictures that are touted
as being representative of abortion. Too bad."

Another friend told me about some interesting information recently, which
can be found in "Maternity & Gynecologic Care", 5th Edition, by Bobak and
Jensen. This is a professional medical reference book used by registered
nurses. I was given a quote from Chapter 40, page 1227:

"Caring for a baby who has died can be a difficult task for the nurse. It
can be made more difficult if the baby has been dead for several days or
weeks in utero, before birth. It may be helpful to have a colleague help in
making the baby look as good as possible and in taking pictures, in some
cases, decapitation or dismemberment has occured."

In other words, cases of miscarriage, stillborns, etc. can be quite
gruesome, and they are not easy to deal with, even for medical
professionals. Unquestionably, many of the pictures of so-called aborted
fetuses are actually medical photographs of this kind of thing.

You can also see gruesome photos in medical textbooks. I'm looking at my
1997 edition of Williams Obstetrics, which shows on page 986 what can happen
as a result of erythroblastosis fetalis, a condition that occurs when the
system of an Rh-negative mother produces antibodies to an antigen in the
blood of an Rh-positive fetus which cross the placenta and destroy fetal
blood cells. The photograph is of a "hydropic macerated stillborn infant."
(Maceration is when dead tissue softens and decays after being in water.)
The picture shows a very damaged baby with parts missing, its mouth open as
if in pain, and skin trauma and discoloration of the kind anti-abortion
pictures claim is typical of saline abortions. Yet this is a picture of
what can, sadly, happen naturally inside a woman's womb.

I find it unconscionable that abortion opponents misuse death and autopsy
photos of stillborn babies by posting them on the Internet as "aborted
fetuses", or steal fetuses and mangle them to create propaganda. How
disgusting to exploit the tragic circumstances under which pictures of
stillborn babies, often long dead in the womb, are taken. Talk about a lack
of respect for the dignity of human life!

By the way, you know that beautifully-lit, heartwarming Lennart Nilsson
photo of the thumb-in-mouth fetus that shows up on the covers of magazines
every once in a while? That's a picture of a dead fetus aborted (by
hysterotomy) long ago, as are most "A Child Is Born", "miracle of life
before birth" photographs. It just goes to show that "aborted fetus"
pictures are more about politics than reality.
Billy
2006-01-09 17:39:33 UTC
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Post by Spartakus
Post by Billy
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Billy
http://www.lizmichael.com/abortion.htm
More propaganda, with some latex and photoshop work done as well.
Deep, bury your head deep.
Time for a re-post...
Question to AllExperts.com: Those pictures of "aborted fetuses" that we see
on pro-life web sites - are they really what the presenters claim them to
be?
Some expert, you don't even give his name.
Post by Spartakus
Post by Billy
Here's what Dr. Sarah Whippman, a British physician, had to say about the
Wow you fond a British female doctor that tells you not to believe it, wow.
let me guess, SHE KILLS BABIES FOR A LIVING?
Spartakus
2006-01-09 17:57:58 UTC
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Post by Billy
Post by Spartakus
Time for a re-post...
Question to AllExperts.com: Those pictures of "aborted fetuses" that we
see on pro-life web sites - are they really what the presenters claim
them
Post by Billy
Post by Spartakus
to be?
Some expert, you don't even give his name.
What makes you think the expert is male?
Post by Billy
Post by Spartakus
Here's what Dr. Sarah Whippman, a British physician, had to say about the
Wow you fond a British female doctor that tells you not to believe it, wow.
let me guess, SHE KILLS BABIES FOR A LIVING?
You guessed wrong.

Instead of shooting the messengers, maybe you could explain to us how you
know that the cause of death for the subjects of these pictures was
abortion?
Barrnabas Collins
2006-01-09 20:20:57 UTC
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IMHO if men could get pregnant there would be a constitutional
amendment guaraneeting a free, quick and safe abortion through
the nineth month, further that if men could get pregnant
contraceptives would be so effective, safe, and free that the
need for an abortion would be close to about one a year.
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Billy
2006-01-09 23:11:24 UTC
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Post by Barrnabas Collins
IMHO if men could get pregnant
Why? You don't think men are affected by unwanted pregnancy?
Barrnabas Collins
2006-01-10 00:24:52 UTC
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Post by Billy
Post by Barrnabas Collins
IMHO if men could get pregnant
Why? You don't think men are affected by unwanted pregnancy?
Here is a hint:a woman becomes pregnant. The man can just
walk away. The woman can't do that, she can't walk away as
easily. Ever hear of dead beat dads?
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Billy
2006-01-10 00:45:56 UTC
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IMHO if men could get pregnant
Why? You don't think men are affected by unwanted pregnancy?
Here is a hint:a woman becomes pregnant. The man can just
walk away. The woman can't do that, she can't walk away as
easily. Ever hear of dead beat dads?
I heard of them going to jail, what I hear most offten about them, is how
women do not press charges agaisnt them. Don't lay down in front of my
door, then bitch about being treated like a mat.
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Barrnabas Collins
2006-01-10 20:43:30 UTC
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I heard of them going to jail, what I hear most offten about them, is how
women do not press charges agaisnt them. Don't lay down in front of my
door, then bitch about being treated like a mat.
And often they don't press charges because 1. they have no idea where
in the wold the dad is. 2. the dad is not working (he deliberetly
quit his job and fled the state). 3. you can't get blood from a
stone.

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Billy
2006-01-10 21:08:02 UTC
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Post by Billy
I heard of them going to jail, what I hear most offten about them, is how
women do not press charges agaisnt them. Don't lay down in front of my
door, then bitch about being treated like a mat.
And often they don't press charges because 1. they have no idea where
in the wold the dad is. 2. the dad is not working (he deliberetly
quit his job and fled the state). 3. you can't get blood from a
stone.
Don't worry about those "men" (boys) making constitutional
amendments, even if they do find a way to have babies.
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David Johnston
2006-01-09 23:31:03 UTC
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On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 15:20:57 -0500, Barrnabas Collins
Post by Barrnabas Collins
IMHO if men could get pregnant there would be a constitutional
amendment guaraneeting a free, quick and safe abortion through
the nineth month, f
Given that the fervent people on both sides are mostly women, I doubt
it.
Sparky Spartacus
2006-01-10 07:53:08 UTC
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Post by David Johnston
On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 15:20:57 -0500, Barrnabas Collins
Post by Barrnabas Collins
IMHO if men could get pregnant there would be a constitutional
amendment guaraneeting a free, quick and safe abortion through
the nineth month, f
Given that the fervent people on both sides are mostly women,
HUH? You must live in some weird parallel universe because you're surely
not living in mine.
Sparky Spartacus
2006-01-10 07:52:08 UTC
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Post by Barrnabas Collins
IMHO if men could get pregnant
abortion would be a sacrament, no doubt about it.
Erasmus "The Mannequin" Brown
2006-01-09 23:43:06 UTC
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Post by Billy
Post by Spartakus
Post by Billy
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Billy
http://www.lizmichael.com/abortion.htm
More propaganda, with some latex and photoshop work done as well.
Deep, bury your head deep.
Time for a re-post...
Question to AllExperts.com: Those pictures of "aborted fetuses" that we see
on pro-life web sites - are they really what the presenters claim them to
be?
Some expert, you don't even give his name.
Post by Spartakus
Post by Billy
Here's what Dr. Sarah Whippman, a British physician, had to say about the
Wow you fond a British female doctor that tells you not to believe it, wow.
let me guess, SHE KILLS BABIES FOR A LIVING?
Will you please take some anti-epileptics?
Brett A. Pasternack
2006-01-11 08:47:42 UTC
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Post by Billy
Post by Spartakus
Here's what Dr. Sarah Whippman, a British physician, had to say about the
Wow you fond a British female doctor that tells you not to believe it, wow.
let me guess, SHE KILLS BABIES FOR A LIVING?
And you accuse other people of having their heads in the sand.
r***@can.oza
2006-01-14 10:32:24 UTC
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Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Billy
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Rev. Donald Spitz
Enjoyed seeing that babykilling abortionist get whacked on TNT's Law and
Order tonight.
The face of "Pro-Life".
The face of "right to choose"
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/PBA_Images/PBA4.BMP
Pro-liar porn.
Stop projecting, your type are screwed in the head, pro-death jackass. Here's
the pro-abortionists LITERALLY applauding it:

'Pro-choicers' clap after partial-birth abortion
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35123

Attendees of a national conference for abortion providers watched and listened
with rapt attention as the inventor of the partial-birth abortion procedure
narrated a video of the grisly procedure – and then burst into applause when
the act was over and the unborn child destroyed.

The disturbing and eye-opening event, featuring abortion doctor Martin Haskell
addressing members of the National Abortion Federation, was captured on
audiotape.

Calmly and dispassionately describing each step of the process – up to and
including the insertion of the scissors into the base of the baby's head,
followed by the sound of the suction machine sucking out the baby's brain –
Haskell walks his audience through the procedure that opponents hope will
finally be banned during this congressional session.

At the end of the procedure, after the late-term, fully developed unborn
child's life has been violently and painfully terminated, the audience breaks
out into applause.

Now, WorldNetDaily is making available to its readers a CD (or audiotape) of
this shocking abortion-industry insider event.

"For the first time, America will actually hear a child being brutally killed
by this procedure while the abortionist coldly and dispassionately describes
every step of the process," says Mark Crutcher, founder of Life Dynamics, the
Denton, Texas, pro-life organization that obtained the tape and has reproduced
it. "Now the American people will be confronted with the reality of abortion.
And this time no one will be able to claim that the pro-life movement is
exaggerating. After all, these are the abortion industry's own words!"

Titled "Fire & Ice," Side A exposes partial-birth abortion as never before,
culminating with extended excerpts from Haskall's macabre presentation and the
audience's applause at the end of the controversial and brutal abortion.
Ray Fischer
2006-01-14 18:01:40 UTC
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Post by r***@can.oza
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Billy
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Rev. Donald Spitz
Enjoyed seeing that babykilling abortionist get whacked on TNT's Law and
Order tonight.
The face of "Pro-Life".
The face of "right to choose"
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/PBA_Images/PBA4.BMP
Pro-liar porn.
Stop projecting,
I didn't post it, dimwit.
Post by r***@can.oza
'Pro-choicers' clap after partial-birth abortion
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/
LOL!

Sucker.
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Erasmus "The Mannequin" Brown
2006-01-15 06:29:51 UTC
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Post by r***@can.oza
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Billy
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Rev. Donald Spitz
Enjoyed seeing that babykilling abortionist get whacked on TNT's Law and
Order tonight.
The face of "Pro-Life".
The face of "right to choose"
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/PBA_Images/PBA4.BMP
Pro-liar porn.
Stop projecting, your type are screwed in the head, pro-death jackass. Here's
'Pro-choicers' clap after partial-birth abortion
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35123
There's no such medical term as "partia-birth abortion."
The Ghost In The Machine
2006-01-15 13:00:12 UTC
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In talk.abortion, Erasmus "The Mannequin" Brown
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on Sun, 15 Jan 2006 01:29:51 -0500
Post by Erasmus "The Mannequin" Brown
Post by r***@can.oza
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Billy
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Rev. Donald Spitz
Enjoyed seeing that babykilling abortionist get whacked
on TNT's Law and Order tonight.
The face of "Pro-Life".
The face of "right to choose"
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/PBA_Images/PBA4.BMP
Pro-liar porn.
Stop projecting, your type are screwed in the head, pro-death
'Pro-choicers' clap after partial-birth abortion
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35123
There's no such medical term as "partia-birth abortion."
Incompetence hasn't stopped us before. Consider, for example,
the campaign against "demon rum"; since rum is actually a
fermentation product (I don't know offhand what) no demons
are involved in its manufacture. And then there's "killer weed";
the only fatalities might have been economic though there are
issues about smoking it (mostly the same as ciggies, with a
stronger smell). Maybe marijuana will resurface once paper
becomes a thing of the past -- which isn't all that likely;
seems to me we get more junk mail than regular, now.

A lot more.

And of course "partial-birth abortion" makes it sound like
some sort of ghastly, horrific procedure. (It's fairly
traumatic, as I understand it, in a medical sense -- a bit
like ripping off one's arm except that in this case the
arm socket would actually regenerate; the placenta helps,
to some extent. Of course arms don't have souls, at least
if one believes the ultra-Right. Legs were sawn off
*without* anesthetic during the Civil War -- a fact many
may ignore or even not have known. Today doctors using
such methods would be labeled barbaric -- general anaesthesia
is now generally employed.)

There are times I get the sad feeling that, far from
being the noble, unemotional (or coldly, brutally logical,
depending on whether they're friend or foe) beings robots
are occasionally portrayed as in the movies, we'd probably
end up making robots just like us. Isaac Asimov does
hint at this in at least one of his stories, where a
robot discovers religion while dealing with a solar storm
at a power station. A copy of "Battlestar Galactica" --
in book form -- that i have also hints at the notion of
"good" and "evil" being very simplistic concepts, among
the enemy Cylons, anyway. Of course "demon rum" can be
used for enjoyment; it and its other spirits can be used
to loosen up the inhibitions, or at least deaden the pain.
(Maybe too much, if taken in excess; it is, after all,
a neural inhibitor, and a poison. I'd have to look but
suspect alcohol overdose victims stop breathing, and it
only takes 0.5% to be fatal.)

And of course computers can be used for good or for evil.
The medical dictionary on the Web is to some extent
counterbalanced by various hate sites -- Ernst Zundel
comes to mind though a more relevant variant would be the
abortionist "dripping blood" variant calling for murder
of prominent abortionists. I don't see www.now.org
calling for the murder of GWBush. Maybe his ouster, at
the very most. (They aren't happy with Alito, I suspect,
but they wouldn't want him dead, either. Removed from
power, yes...but not dead.)

Hate wears many suits, tailored for each occasion,
presumably. Do anti-abortionists really hate themselves
and women? A rather irksome question (this isn't
crossposted to alt.psychoanalysis.parlor, is it? :-) ) but
one wonders at times. Presumably, of course, they also
wonder about us and whether we hate babies or something.
I prefer to look at the entire picture, which includes
women. :-)

(Women occasionally accuse us men of undressing them with
our eyes. Of course that's Yet Another Force that can
be used for good or for evil: imagination -- or, for that
matter, sex.)

Of course we can do nothing but view the world through
our own filters, though occasionally we can modify those
filters, transcending our own limitations. At least,
I for one hope so, for all our sakes.
--
#191, ***@earthlink.net -- insert random brain cleaner here
It's still legal to go .sigless.
Billy
2006-01-15 15:47:26 UTC
Permalink
Post by The Ghost In The Machine
In talk.abortion, Erasmus "The Mannequin" Brown
on Sun, 15 Jan 2006 01:29:51 -0500
Post by Erasmus "The Mannequin" Brown
Post by r***@can.oza
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Billy
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Rev. Donald Spitz
Enjoyed seeing that babykilling abortionist get whacked
on TNT's Law and Order tonight.
The face of "Pro-Life".
The face of "right to choose"
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/PBA_Images/PBA4.BMP
Pro-liar porn.
Stop projecting, your type are screwed in the head, pro-death
'Pro-choicers' clap after partial-birth abortion
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35123
There's no such medical term as "partia-birth abortion."
Incompetence hasn't stopped us before. Consider, for example,
the campaign against "demon rum"; since rum is actually a
fermentation product (I don't know offhand what) no demons
are involved in its manufacture. And then there's "killer weed";
the only fatalities might have been economic though there are
issues about smoking it (mostly the same as ciggies, with a
stronger smell). Maybe marijuana will resurface once paper
becomes a thing of the past -- which isn't all that likely;
seems to me we get more junk mail than regular, now.
A lot more.
And of course "partial-birth abortion" makes it sound like
some sort of ghastly, horrific procedure. (It's fairly
traumatic, as I understand it, in a medical sense -- a bit
like ripping off one's arm except that in this case the
arm socket would actually regenerate; the placenta helps,
to some extent. Of course arms don't have souls, at least
if one believes the ultra-Right. Legs were sawn off
*without* anesthetic during the Civil War -- a fact many
may ignore or even not have known. Today doctors using
such methods would be labeled barbaric -- general anaesthesia
is now generally employed.)
There are times I get the sad feeling that, far from
being the noble, unemotional (or coldly, brutally logical,
depending on whether they're friend or foe) beings robots
are occasionally portrayed as in the movies, we'd probably
end up making robots just like us. Isaac Asimov does
hint at this in at least one of his stories, where a
robot discovers religion while dealing with a solar storm
at a power station. A copy of "Battlestar Galactica" --
in book form -- that i have also hints at the notion of
"good" and "evil" being very simplistic concepts, among
the enemy Cylons, anyway. Of course "demon rum" can be
used for enjoyment; it and its other spirits can be used
to loosen up the inhibitions, or at least deaden the pain.
(Maybe too much, if taken in excess; it is, after all,
a neural inhibitor, and a poison. I'd have to look but
suspect alcohol overdose victims stop breathing, and it
only takes 0.5% to be fatal.)
And of course computers can be used for good or for evil.
The medical dictionary on the Web is to some extent
counterbalanced by various hate sites -- Ernst Zundel
comes to mind though a more relevant variant would be the
abortionist "dripping blood" variant calling for murder
of prominent abortionists. I don't see www.now.org
calling for the murder of GWBush. Maybe his ouster, at
the very most. (They aren't happy with Alito, I suspect,
but they wouldn't want him dead, either. Removed from
power, yes...but not dead.)
Hate wears many suits, tailored for each occasion,
presumably. Do anti-abortionists really hate themselves
and women? A rather irksome question (this isn't
crossposted to alt.psychoanalysis.parlor, is it? :-) ) but
one wonders at times. Presumably, of course, they also
wonder about us and whether we hate babies or something.
I prefer to look at the entire picture, which includes
women. :-)
(Women occasionally accuse us men of undressing them with
our eyes. Of course that's Yet Another Force that can
be used for good or for evil: imagination -- or, for that
matter, sex.)
Of course we can do nothing but view the world through
our own filters, though occasionally we can modify those
filters, transcending our own limitations. At least,
I for one hope so, for all our sakes.
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/PBA_Images/PBA_Images_Heathers_Place.htm
Neill
2006-01-15 14:42:06 UTC
Permalink
Post by Spartakus
Post by r***@can.oza
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Billy
The face of "right to choose"
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/PBA_Images/PBA4.BMP
Pro-liar porn.
Stop projecting, your type are screwed in the head, pro-death jackass.
Here's
Post by r***@can.oza
'Pro-choicers' clap after partial-birth abortion
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35123
There's no such medical term as "partia-birth abortion."
Call it what you will, it's still killing a fetus that could survive
independently outside the womb.
Ray Fischer
2006-01-15 18:10:03 UTC
Permalink
Post by Neill
Post by Spartakus
Post by r***@can.oza
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Billy
The face of "right to choose"
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/PBA_Images/PBA4.BMP
Pro-liar porn.
Stop projecting, your type are screwed in the head, pro-death jackass.
Here's
Post by r***@can.oza
'Pro-choicers' clap after partial-birth abortion
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35123
There's no such medical term as "partia-birth abortion."
Call it what you will, it's still killing a fetus that could survive
independently outside the womb.
No, it isn't. IDE is a 2nd trimester procedure done when the fetus is
not viable.
--
Ray Fischer
***@sonic.net
Billy
2006-01-15 18:41:03 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Neill
Post by Spartakus
Post by r***@can.oza
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Billy
The face of "right to choose"
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/PBA_Images/PBA4.BMP
Pro-liar porn.
Stop projecting, your type are screwed in the head, pro-death jackass.
Here's
Post by r***@can.oza
'Pro-choicers' clap after partial-birth abortion
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35123
There's no such medical term as "partia-birth abortion."
Call it what you will, it's still killing a fetus that could survive
independently outside the womb.
No, it isn't. IDE is a 2nd trimester procedure done when the fetus is
not viable.
Or 3rd trimester when the fetus is viable.
Post by Ray Fischer
--
Ray Fischer
Ray Fischer
2006-01-15 23:14:05 UTC
Permalink
Post by Billy
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Neill
Post by Spartakus
Post by r***@can.oza
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Billy
The face of "right to choose"
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/PBA_Images/PBA4.BMP
Pro-liar porn.
Stop projecting, your type are screwed in the head, pro-death jackass.
Here's
Post by r***@can.oza
'Pro-choicers' clap after partial-birth abortion
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35123
There's no such medical term as "partia-birth abortion."
Call it what you will, it's still killing a fetus that could survive
independently outside the womb.
No, it isn't. IDE is a 2nd trimester procedure done when the fetus is
not viable.
Or 3rd trimester when the fetus is viable.
No it is not done during the 3rd trimester. That's an anti-abortion
lie. One of many.
--
Ray Fischer
***@sonic.net
Billy
2006-01-16 01:36:14 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Billy
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Neill
Post by Spartakus
Post by r***@can.oza
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Billy
The face of "right to choose"
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/PBA_Images/PBA4.BMP
Pro-liar porn.
Stop projecting, your type are screwed in the head, pro-death jackass.
Here's
Post by r***@can.oza
'Pro-choicers' clap after partial-birth abortion
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35123
There's no such medical term as "partia-birth abortion."
Call it what you will, it's still killing a fetus that could survive
independently outside the womb.
No, it isn't. IDE is a 2nd trimester procedure done when the fetus is
not viable.
Or 3rd trimester when the fetus is viable.
No it is not done during the 3rd trimester. That's an anti-abortion
lie. One of many.
yes it is
Post by Ray Fischer
--
Ray Fischer
Ray Fischer
2006-01-16 02:14:10 UTC
Permalink
Post by Billy
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Billy
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Neill
Post by Spartakus
Post by r***@can.oza
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Billy
The face of "right to choose"
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/PBA_Images/PBA4.BMP
Pro-liar porn.
Stop projecting, your type are screwed in the head, pro-death jackass.
Here's
Post by r***@can.oza
'Pro-choicers' clap after partial-birth abortion
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35123
There's no such medical term as "partia-birth abortion."
Call it what you will, it's still killing a fetus that could survive
independently outside the womb.
No, it isn't. IDE is a 2nd trimester procedure done when the fetus is
not viable.
Or 3rd trimester when the fetus is viable.
No it is not done during the 3rd trimester. That's an anti-abortion
lie. One of many.
yes it is
Gee, another pro-liar makes bullshit claims. What a surprise.

Anything at all to justify your hate, eh?
--
Ray Fischer
***@sonic.net
Neill
2006-01-15 19:00:00 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Neill
Post by Spartakus
Post by r***@can.oza
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Billy
The face of "right to choose"
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/PBA_Images/PBA4.BMP
Pro-liar porn.
Stop projecting, your type are screwed in the head, pro-death jackass.
Here's
Post by r***@can.oza
'Pro-choicers' clap after partial-birth abortion
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35123
There's no such medical term as "partia-birth abortion."
Call it what you will, it's still killing a fetus that could survive
independently outside the womb.
No, it isn't. IDE is a 2nd trimester procedure done when the fetus is
not viable.
Then we're not talking about the same thing. I was referring to a procedure
where the fetus is half delivered, and killed, hence the term "partial birth
abortion"
David W. Barnes
2006-01-15 19:01:00 UTC
Permalink
Post by r***@can.oza
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Neill
Post by Spartakus
Post by r***@can.oza
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Billy
The face of "right to choose"
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/PBA_Images/PBA4.BMP
Pro-liar porn.
Stop projecting, your type are screwed in the head, pro-death
jackass.
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Neill
Post by Spartakus
Here's
Post by r***@can.oza
'Pro-choicers' clap after partial-birth abortion
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35123
There's no such medical term as "partia-birth abortion."
Call it what you will, it's still killing a fetus that could survive
independently outside the womb.
No, it isn't. IDE is a 2nd trimester procedure done when the fetus is
not viable.
Then we're not talking about the same thing. I was referring to a procedure
where the fetus is half delivered, and killed, hence the term "partial birth
abortion"
Which happens about five times per year.
Neill
2006-01-15 19:16:38 UTC
Permalink
Post by David W. Barnes
Post by r***@can.oza
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Neill
Post by Spartakus
Post by r***@can.oza
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Billy
The face of "right to choose"
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/PBA_Images/PBA4.BMP
Pro-liar porn.
Stop projecting, your type are screwed in the head, pro-death
jackass.
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Neill
Post by Spartakus
Here's
Post by r***@can.oza
'Pro-choicers' clap after partial-birth abortion
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35123
There's no such medical term as "partia-birth abortion."
Call it what you will, it's still killing a fetus that could survive
independently outside the womb.
No, it isn't. IDE is a 2nd trimester procedure done when the fetus is
not viable.
Then we're not talking about the same thing. I was referring to a procedure
where the fetus is half delivered, and killed, hence the term "partial birth
abortion"
Which happens about five times per year.
I wasn't aware of that statistic. Can you provide a cite? What about third
term abortions? Surely, there must be some sort of definitive stats
available.

Don't get me wrong, I'm pro-choice, within certain limits once the fetus is
viable.
Erasmus "The Mannequin" Brown
2006-01-15 23:46:00 UTC
Permalink
Post by r***@can.oza
Post by David W. Barnes
Post by r***@can.oza
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Neill
Post by Spartakus
Post by r***@can.oza
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Billy
The face of "right to choose"
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/PBA_Images/PBA4.BMP
Pro-liar porn.
Stop projecting, your type are screwed in the head, pro-death
jackass.
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Neill
Post by Spartakus
Here's
Post by r***@can.oza
'Pro-choicers' clap after partial-birth abortion
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35123
There's no such medical term as "partia-birth abortion."
Call it what you will, it's still killing a fetus that could survive
independently outside the womb.
No, it isn't. IDE is a 2nd trimester procedure done when the fetus is
not viable.
Then we're not talking about the same thing. I was referring to a
procedure
Post by David W. Barnes
Post by r***@can.oza
where the fetus is half delivered, and killed, hence the term "partial
birth
Post by David W. Barnes
Post by r***@can.oza
abortion"
Which happens about five times per year.
I wasn't aware of that statistic. Can you provide a cite? What about third
term abortions? Surely, there must be some sort of definitive stats
available.
Don't get me wrong, I'm pro-choice, within certain limits once the fetus is
viable.
I was under the impression that 3rd-trimester abortions are illegal.
Billy
2006-01-16 01:39:01 UTC
Permalink
Post by Neill
Post by r***@can.oza
Post by David W. Barnes
Post by r***@can.oza
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Neill
Post by Spartakus
Post by r***@can.oza
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Billy
The face of "right to choose"
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/PBA_Images/PBA4.BMP
Pro-liar porn.
Stop projecting, your type are screwed in the head, pro-death
jackass.
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Neill
Post by Spartakus
Here's
Post by r***@can.oza
'Pro-choicers' clap after partial-birth abortion
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35123
There's no such medical term as "partia-birth abortion."
Call it what you will, it's still killing a fetus that could
survive
Post by r***@can.oza
Post by David W. Barnes
Post by r***@can.oza
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Neill
independently outside the womb.
No, it isn't. IDE is a 2nd trimester procedure done when the fetus
is
Post by r***@can.oza
Post by David W. Barnes
Post by r***@can.oza
Post by Ray Fischer
not viable.
Then we're not talking about the same thing. I was referring to a
procedure
Post by David W. Barnes
Post by r***@can.oza
where the fetus is half delivered, and killed, hence the term "partial
birth
Post by David W. Barnes
Post by r***@can.oza
abortion"
Which happens about five times per year.
I wasn't aware of that statistic. Can you provide a cite? What about third
term abortions? Surely, there must be some sort of definitive stats
available.
Don't get me wrong, I'm pro-choice, within certain limits once the fetus
is
Post by r***@can.oza
viable.
I was under the impression that 3rd-trimester abortions are illegal.
no, it came up for a vote and was voted down along party lines. The
democrats kept it legal.
Ray Fischer
2006-01-16 02:14:55 UTC
Permalink
Post by Billy
Post by Neill
Post by r***@can.oza
Post by David W. Barnes
Post by r***@can.oza
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Neill
Post by Spartakus
Post by r***@can.oza
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Billy
The face of "right to choose"
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/PBA_Images/PBA4.BMP
Pro-liar porn.
Stop projecting, your type are screwed in the head, pro-death
jackass.
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Neill
Post by Spartakus
Here's
Post by r***@can.oza
'Pro-choicers' clap after partial-birth abortion
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35123
There's no such medical term as "partia-birth abortion."
Call it what you will, it's still killing a fetus that could
survive
Post by r***@can.oza
Post by David W. Barnes
Post by r***@can.oza
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Neill
independently outside the womb.
No, it isn't. IDE is a 2nd trimester procedure done when the fetus
is
Post by r***@can.oza
Post by David W. Barnes
Post by r***@can.oza
Post by Ray Fischer
not viable.
Then we're not talking about the same thing. I was referring to a
procedure
Post by David W. Barnes
Post by r***@can.oza
where the fetus is half delivered, and killed, hence the term "partial
birth
Post by David W. Barnes
Post by r***@can.oza
abortion"
Which happens about five times per year.
I wasn't aware of that statistic. Can you provide a cite? What about third
term abortions? Surely, there must be some sort of definitive stats
available.
Don't get me wrong, I'm pro-choice, within certain limits once the fetus
is
Post by r***@can.oza
viable.
I was under the impression that 3rd-trimester abortions are illegal.
no, it came up for a vote and was voted down along party lines. The
democrats kept it legal.
You really are full of shit. You don't even realize that it varies
from state to state, and most states make aborting a viable fetus
illegal.
--
Ray Fischer
***@sonic.net
David W. Barnes
2006-01-16 02:27:00 UTC
Permalink
Post by Billy
Post by Neill
Post by r***@can.oza
Post by David W. Barnes
Post by r***@can.oza
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Neill
Post by Spartakus
Post by r***@can.oza
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Billy
The face of "right to choose"
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/PBA_Images/PBA4.BMP
Pro-liar porn.
Stop projecting, your type are screwed in the head, pro-death
jackass.
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Neill
Post by Spartakus
Here's
Post by r***@can.oza
'Pro-choicers' clap after partial-birth abortion
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35123
There's no such medical term as "partia-birth abortion."
Call it what you will, it's still killing a fetus that could
survive
Post by r***@can.oza
Post by David W. Barnes
Post by r***@can.oza
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Neill
independently outside the womb.
No, it isn't. IDE is a 2nd trimester procedure done when the fetus
is
Post by r***@can.oza
Post by David W. Barnes
Post by r***@can.oza
Post by Ray Fischer
not viable.
Then we're not talking about the same thing. I was referring to a
procedure
Post by David W. Barnes
Post by r***@can.oza
where the fetus is half delivered, and killed, hence the term "partial
birth
Post by David W. Barnes
Post by r***@can.oza
abortion"
Which happens about five times per year.
I wasn't aware of that statistic. Can you provide a cite? What about third
term abortions? Surely, there must be some sort of definitive stats
available.
Don't get me wrong, I'm pro-choice, within certain limits once the fetus
is
Post by r***@can.oza
viable.
I was under the impression that 3rd-trimester abortions are illegal.
no, it came up for a vote and was voted down along party lines. The
democrats kept it legal.
You are making that up. You can't vote up or down on a right
guaranteed by the United States Constitution.

Billy
2006-01-16 01:37:59 UTC
Permalink
Post by David W. Barnes
Post by r***@can.oza
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Neill
Post by Spartakus
Post by r***@can.oza
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Billy
The face of "right to choose"
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/PBA_Images/PBA4.BMP
Pro-liar porn.
Stop projecting, your type are screwed in the head, pro-death
jackass.
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Neill
Post by Spartakus
Here's
Post by r***@can.oza
'Pro-choicers' clap after partial-birth abortion
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35123
There's no such medical term as "partia-birth abortion."
Call it what you will, it's still killing a fetus that could survive
independently outside the womb.
No, it isn't. IDE is a 2nd trimester procedure done when the fetus is
not viable.
Then we're not talking about the same thing. I was referring to a procedure
where the fetus is half delivered, and killed, hence the term "partial birth
abortion"
Which happens about five times per year.
Partial-birth abortions are performed thousands of times annually on
healthy babies of healthy mothers. In 1997, Ron Fitzsimmons, executive
director of the National Coalition of Abortion Providers (1997), estimated
that the method was used 3,000 to 5,000 times annually. "In the vast
majority of cases, the procedure is performed on a healthy mother with a
healthy fetus that is 20 weeks or more along, Fitzsimmons said." (The New
York Times, Feb. 26, 1997, p. A11.) (See clippings at
www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/index.html, in the late 1996 and early 1997
archive.) In January 2003, even the Alan Guttmacher Institute - an
affiliate of Planned Parenthood - published a survey of abortion providers
that estimated that 2,200 abortions were performed by the method in the year
2000. While that figure is surely low (see
www.nrlc.org/press_releases_new/release011503.html), it is more than triple
the number that AGI estimated in its most recent previous survey (for 1996).
. In January 1997, the PBS program Media Matters showed that in 1995-96,
the news media largely swallowed a pro-abortion "party line" that
partial-birth abortions are performed rarely and only in extreme medical
circumstances -- claims later discredited. (See
www.pbs.org/wnet/mediamatters99/transcript2.html)
Ray Fischer
2006-01-15 23:15:04 UTC
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Post by r***@can.oza
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Neill
Post by Spartakus
Post by r***@can.oza
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Billy
The face of "right to choose"
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/PBA_Images/PBA4.BMP
Pro-liar porn.
Stop projecting, your type are screwed in the head, pro-death
jackass.
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Neill
Post by Spartakus
Here's
Post by r***@can.oza
'Pro-choicers' clap after partial-birth abortion
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35123
There's no such medical term as "partia-birth abortion."
Call it what you will, it's still killing a fetus that could survive
independently outside the womb.
No, it isn't. IDE is a 2nd trimester procedure done when the fetus is
not viable.
Then we're not talking about the same thing.
I'm referring to reality.
Post by r***@can.oza
I was referring to a procedure
where the fetus is half delivered, and killed, hence the term "partial birth
abortion"
Your version doesn't exist. It's a lie. It's evil propaganda from
pro-liar control freaks who would rather see women dead.
--
Ray Fischer
***@sonic.net
Billy
2006-01-16 01:39:37 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by r***@can.oza
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Neill
Post by Spartakus
Post by r***@can.oza
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Billy
The face of "right to choose"
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/PBA_Images/PBA4.BMP
Pro-liar porn.
Stop projecting, your type are screwed in the head, pro-death
jackass.
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Neill
Post by Spartakus
Here's
Post by r***@can.oza
'Pro-choicers' clap after partial-birth abortion
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35123
There's no such medical term as "partia-birth abortion."
Call it what you will, it's still killing a fetus that could survive
independently outside the womb.
No, it isn't. IDE is a 2nd trimester procedure done when the fetus is
not viable.
Then we're not talking about the same thing.
I'm referring to reality.
Post by r***@can.oza
I was referring to a procedure
where the fetus is half delivered, and killed, hence the term "partial birth
abortion"
Your version doesn't exist. It's a lie. It's evil propaganda from
pro-liar control freaks who would rather see women dead.
you are a liar
Post by Ray Fischer
--
Ray Fischer
The Chief Instigator
2006-01-15 18:29:48 UTC
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Post by Neill
Post by Erasmus "The Mannequin" Brown
Post by r***@can.oza
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Billy
The face of "right to choose"
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/PBA_Images/PBA4.BMP
Pro-liar porn.
Stop projecting, your type are screwed in the head, pro-death
'Pro-choicers' clap after partial-birth abortion
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35123
There's no such medical term as "partia-birth abortion."
Call it what you will, it's still killing a fetus that could survive
independently outside the womb.
I guess it's just a coincidence that no one can find credible evidence of it
being done for any other reason than to save the woman carrying it, or because
the fetus has no chance of independent survival, then or at any subsequent
time...
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (***@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Iowa 3, Houston 2 (January 12)
NEXT GAME: Sunday, January 15 vs. San Antonio, 5:05
Billy
2006-01-15 15:50:46 UTC
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Post by Spartakus
Post by r***@can.oza
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Billy
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Rev. Donald Spitz
Enjoyed seeing that babykilling abortionist get whacked on TNT's Law
and
Post by r***@can.oza
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Billy
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Rev. Donald Spitz
Order tonight.
The face of "Pro-Life".
The face of "right to choose"
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/PBA_Images/PBA4.BMP
Pro-liar porn.
Stop projecting, your type are screwed in the head, pro-death jackass.
Here's
Post by r***@can.oza
'Pro-choicers' clap after partial-birth abortion
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35123
There's no such medical term as "partia-birth abortion."
Nor should there be, medical terms are relating to procedures meant to heal,
not kill.


http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/PBA_Images/PBA_Images_Heathers_Place.htm
theget
2006-01-15 17:59:04 UTC
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[follow ups to alt.bible,alt.christnet, snipped]

Billy wrote:
[big snip]

Billy, I have some questions.

AFAIK, there are several complications of pregnancy that are generally
believed by physicians to be fatal to both the mother and the fetus.

Even if you don't believe in these, such as ectopic pregnancy, please
assume for sake of argument that they may occur.

If a woman was sufffering from one of these complications, and you had
the power to control her decision as to what to do about it, what
would you force her to do?

a) Hope for a miracle.
b) Follow her doctor's advice and get an abortion.
c) Make her travel to a place where abortion is legal and get an
abortion.
d) Allow her to make her own choice.
e) Something else? Please specify.

If you follow a, and the hoped for miracle doesn't happen, would that
make you sad and question your belief that abortion shouldn't be
allowed, or would you just figure that was your god's will and it's all
for the best? IOW is it still a blessed event even if either the mother
or baby or both die?

If you had the power to prevent it, would you prevent her physician
from telling her that she had one of these conditions? If so, wouldn't
it be better to keep the pregnancy secret from the mother, so she can't
even contemplate the idea of an abortion? Assume for the sake of
argument that you have the power to do this. Would keeping the mother
from sin be the wisest course, even if it meant that pre-natal care
would go by the way side?

I hope you can clear this up for me.

TIA

Theget
Deopatra
2006-01-15 18:32:01 UTC
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X-No-archive: yes

Theget, the principal fallacy in your scenario is it has as its
unstated premise that the health and well being of person A takes
precedence in all circumstances over the life of person B where B's
death will *solve* A's health, family, social or financial problems.
This is the principle being established here, for once a principal is
established in one area of human behavior it must be applied in others
as well. This is why we call them principles.

With a few minor changes in the characters and circumstances, the very
same scenario can also be set up using infanticide, euthanasia and
mercy killing as examples. Once we firmly establish the principle that
what's parasitical in nature in our personal lives, and whose death
will alleviate our own suffering or endangerment, can be considered as
a viable option, then this will follow like the night follows day.

Few of you are able to think conceptually and to reflect on where your
type of *thinking* inevitably leads. Liberals never stop to think of
how their thinking in one particular area will inevitably be applied in
other areas as well.
theget
2006-01-15 19:31:09 UTC
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Post by Deopatra
X-No-archive: yes
Theget, the principal fallacy in your scenario is it has as its
unstated premise that the health and well being of person A takes
precedence in all circumstances over the life of person B where B's
death will *solve* A's health, family, social or financial problems.
There is a fallacy in your response. "B" is not a person, but a fetus.

But for just a moment, I'll assume that B is a person. There are
plenty of circumstances, although, not all, where B's life is put
second. War comes to mind.
Post by Deopatra
This is the principle being established here, for once a principal is
established in one area of human behavior it must be applied in others
as well. This is why we call them principles.
And so it is. But as I said, I think that you've falsely stated one of
the circumstances of the principle we are discussing, since B is not a
person.



[snip]
Post by Deopatra
Few of you are able to think conceptually and to reflect on where your
type of *thinking* inevitably leads. Liberals never stop to think of
how their thinking in one particular area will inevitably be applied in
other areas as well.
"you"? "Liberals"? Are you refering to me? It's been quite some time
since I've been labeled a liberal. But it doesn't feel bad.

And sorry, but I think that I do tend to, or at least try to, consider
the consequences of my beliefs.

Theget
Deopatra
2006-01-15 19:54:32 UTC
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X-No-archive: yes

Theget, if I assert, say, that tree A might differ substantially from
tree B by virtue of its foliage, how is that broad, general concept of
differentiation of species as enunciated by that *form* of
argumentation affected? If I posit that imaginary house A, with an
unstable foundation, may likely slide down a steep hill, and imaginary
house B, with a firm foundation, will likely stay in place, how is the
underlying, fundamental truth of that statement materially affected
because house A and house B do not exist? They don't have to exist, any
more than we can touch or feel an idea, a thought, an equation or a
theory.

Theget, the general truth and wisdom of that observation is not
affected one whit just because house A and B cannot be located on the
planet. This is what I mean by abstract thinking, and most leftists are
utterly incapable of framing what and how they think in broad governing
principles of physics or of human behavior as they may apply elsewhere.
theget
2006-01-15 23:17:09 UTC
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Post by Deopatra
X-No-archive: yes
Theget, if I assert, say, that tree A might differ substantially from
tree B by virtue of its foliage, how is that broad, general concept of
differentiation of species as enunciated by that *form* of
argumentation affected? If I posit that imaginary house A, with an
unstable foundation, may likely slide down a steep hill, and imaginary
house B, with a firm foundation, will likely stay in place, how is the
underlying, fundamental truth of that statement materially affected
because house A and house B do not exist?
It seems clear to me that the imaginary houses have imaginary
foundations, but did you mean to imply that the steep hill was
imaginary as well?
Post by Deopatra
They don't have to exist,
If they are imaginary, then by definition they don't have a physical
corporeal existance as actual houses.
Post by Deopatra
any
more than we can touch or feel an idea, a thought, an equation or a
theory.
Theget, the general truth and wisdom of that observation is not
affected one whit just because house A and B cannot be located on the
planet. This is what I mean by abstract thinking, and most leftists are
utterly incapable of framing what and how they think in broad governing
principles of physics or of human behavior as they may apply elsewhere.
I think that your point is too narrow. Far from being limited to
leftists, in my experience, most people are incapable of abstract
thought. But what an interesting way to make your point.

Besides which, it's not clear to me that being able to apply principles
broadly is a universally useful trait. But let's assume for the sake
of argument that it is.

Could you lock the fetus' mother in prison without violating that
"person's" rights? Could you execute the mother without adversely
affecting the "person's" rights? Can the mother claim to be two people
in an HOV lane? If the mother commits a crime can the fetus-as-person
be a witness to it, or considered a participant in the crime? Does the
mother have full custody of the "person"? Can the father be allowed
unsupervised visitation, ie without the mother of the "person" being
present? Can the father sue for and obtain full custody of the
"person"? Is the "person" a moral actor?

Theget
Ray Fischer
2006-01-15 23:18:17 UTC
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Post by Deopatra
X-No-archive: yes
Theget, the principal fallacy in your scenario is it has as its
unstated premise that the health and well being of person A takes
precedence in all circumstances over the life of person B where B's
death will *solve* A's health, family, social or financial problems.
This is the principle being established here, for once a principal is
established in one area of human behavior it must be applied in others
as well. This is why we call them principles.
Everybody will notice that your freedom, your right to keep your money
and property, overrides the lives of other people. You freely let
children die of hunger and disease when you could be spending your
money to help them.

Of course, helping other people isn't the point. Your objective is to
subjugate women and punish sex.
--
Ray Fischer
***@sonic.net
Billy
2006-01-15 18:46:26 UTC
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Post by theget
[follow ups to alt.bible,alt.christnet, snipped]
[big snip]
Billy, I have some questions.
AFAIK, there are several complications of pregnancy that are generally
believed by physicians to be fatal to both the mother and the fetus.
Even if you don't believe in these, such as ectopic pregnancy, please
assume for sake of argument that they may occur.
If a woman was sufffering from one of these complications, and you had
the power to control her decision as to what to do about it, what
would you force her to do?
If an innocent life is in danger and the only way to save it is to take
another innocent life, then I choose to allow the one with the problem to
die. Let me ask you a question, if a man is having complications with his
heart and the only way to save him is to take the heart out of another
living man, would you condone it?
theget
2006-01-15 19:39:51 UTC
Permalink
Post by Billy
Post by theget
[follow ups to alt.bible,alt.christnet, snipped]
[big snip]
Billy, I have some questions.
AFAIK, there are several complications of pregnancy that are generally
believed by physicians to be fatal to both the mother and the fetus.
Even if you don't believe in these, such as ectopic pregnancy, please
assume for sake of argument that they may occur.
If a woman was sufffering from one of these complications, and you had
the power to control her decision as to what to do about it, what
would you force her to do?
If an innocent life is in danger and the only way to save it is to take
another innocent life, then I choose to allow the one with the problem to
die.
So you might support abortion in some cases, for example, if a
physician says that the baby has some defect that will almost certainly
kill the mother?
Post by Billy
Let me ask you a question, if a man is having complications with his
heart and the only way to save him is to take the heart out of another
living man, would you condone it?
Generally not, but in some circumstances yes. But not so
coincidentally, that depends on what you mean by "living".

I'm curious about something you said elsewhere in this thread, that
"women have a right to not become pregnant" I might not have the exact
quote. In spite of this "right" some women will become pregnant, by
rape for example. What then?

Theget
Billy
2006-01-16 01:42:30 UTC
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Post by theget
Post by Billy
Post by theget
[follow ups to alt.bible,alt.christnet, snipped]
[big snip]
Billy, I have some questions.
AFAIK, there are several complications of pregnancy that are generally
believed by physicians to be fatal to both the mother and the fetus.
Even if you don't believe in these, such as ectopic pregnancy, please
assume for sake of argument that they may occur.
If a woman was sufffering from one of these complications, and you had
the power to control her decision as to what to do about it, what
would you force her to do?
If an innocent life is in danger and the only way to save it is to take
another innocent life, then I choose to allow the one with the problem to
die.
So you might support abortion in some cases, for example, if a
physician says that the baby has some defect that will almost certainly
kill the mother?
what kind of defect would that be?
Post by theget
Post by Billy
Let me ask you a question, if a man is having complications with his
heart and the only way to save him is to take the heart out of another
living man, would you condone it?
Generally not, but in some circumstances yes. But not so
coincidentally, that depends on what you mean by "living".
I'm curious about something you said elsewhere in this thread, that
"women have a right to not become pregnant" I might not have the exact
quote. In spite of this "right" some women will become pregnant, by
rape for example. What then?
Then their rights were violiated and they can sue.
Post by theget
Theget
Ray Fischer
2006-01-15 23:19:00 UTC
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Post by Billy
Post by theget
[follow ups to alt.bible,alt.christnet, snipped]
[big snip]
Billy, I have some questions.
AFAIK, there are several complications of pregnancy that are generally
believed by physicians to be fatal to both the mother and the fetus.
Even if you don't believe in these, such as ectopic pregnancy, please
assume for sake of argument that they may occur.
If a woman was sufffering from one of these complications, and you had
the power to control her decision as to what to do about it, what
would you force her to do?
If an innocent life is in danger and the only way to save it is to take
another innocent life, then I choose to allow the one with the problem to
die.
And why should your right to keep your money override another person's
life?
--
Ray Fischer
***@sonic.net
Billy
2006-01-16 01:43:36 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Billy
Post by theget
[follow ups to alt.bible,alt.christnet, snipped]
[big snip]
Billy, I have some questions.
AFAIK, there are several complications of pregnancy that are generally
believed by physicians to be fatal to both the mother and the fetus.
Even if you don't believe in these, such as ectopic pregnancy, please
assume for sake of argument that they may occur.
If a woman was sufffering from one of these complications, and you had
the power to control her decision as to what to do about it, what
would you force her to do?
If an innocent life is in danger and the only way to save it is to take
another innocent life, then I choose to allow the one with the problem to
die.
And why should your right to keep your money override another person's
life?
it doesn't, but if i think my life is in danger i have the right to protect
myself.
Post by Ray Fischer
--
Ray Fischer
Ray Fischer
2006-01-16 02:16:11 UTC
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Post by Billy
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Billy
Post by theget
[big snip]
Billy, I have some questions.
AFAIK, there are several complications of pregnancy that are generally
believed by physicians to be fatal to both the mother and the fetus.
Even if you don't believe in these, such as ectopic pregnancy, please
assume for sake of argument that they may occur.
If a woman was sufffering from one of these complications, and you had
the power to control her decision as to what to do about it, what
would you force her to do?
If an innocent life is in danger and the only way to save it is to take
another innocent life, then I choose to allow the one with the problem to
die.
And why should your right to keep your money override another person's
life?
it doesn't,
And yet here you are, with your money, and letting children die.

Looks like you really have nothing but lies and hypocrisy.
--
Ray Fischer
***@sonic.net
The Ghost In The Machine
2006-01-15 18:00:46 UTC
Permalink
In talk.abortion, Billy
<***@cox.net>
wrote
on Sun, 15 Jan 2006 07:50:46 -0800
Post by Billy
Post by Spartakus
Post by r***@can.oza
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Billy
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Rev. Donald Spitz
Enjoyed seeing that babykilling abortionist get whacked on TNT's Law
and
Post by r***@can.oza
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Billy
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Rev. Donald Spitz
Order tonight.
The face of "Pro-Life".
The face of "right to choose"
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/PBA_Images/PBA4.BMP
Pro-liar porn.
Stop projecting, your type are screwed in the head, pro-death jackass.
Here's
Post by r***@can.oza
'Pro-choicers' clap after partial-birth abortion
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35123
There's no such medical term as "partia-birth abortion."
Nor should there be, medical terms are relating to procedures meant to heal,
not kill.
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/PBA_Images/PBA_Images_Heathers_Place.htm
OK, given that:

[1] abortion is cold-blooded murder (for the sake of argument),
[2] it must be stopped (ditto),
[3] women have rights (and one would certainly hope so!) as outlined
in the US constitution,
[3] doctors have rights

how did you propose to stop abortions?
--
#191, ***@earthlink.net
It's still legal to go .sigless.
Billy
2006-01-15 18:48:20 UTC
Permalink
Post by The Ghost In The Machine
In talk.abortion, Billy
on Sun, 15 Jan 2006 07:50:46 -0800
Post by Billy
Post by Spartakus
Post by r***@can.oza
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Billy
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Rev. Donald Spitz
Enjoyed seeing that babykilling abortionist get whacked on TNT's Law
and
Post by r***@can.oza
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Billy
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Rev. Donald Spitz
Order tonight.
The face of "Pro-Life".
The face of "right to choose"
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/PBA_Images/PBA4.BMP
Pro-liar porn.
Stop projecting, your type are screwed in the head, pro-death jackass.
Here's
Post by r***@can.oza
'Pro-choicers' clap after partial-birth abortion
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35123
There's no such medical term as "partia-birth abortion."
Nor should there be, medical terms are relating to procedures meant to heal,
not kill.
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/PBA_Images/PBA_Images_Heathers_Place.htm
[1] abortion is cold-blooded murder (for the sake of argument),
[2] it must be stopped (ditto),
[3] women have rights (and one would certainly hope so!) as outlined
in the US constitution,
[3] doctors have rights
how did you propose to stop abortions?
Women have the right not to get pregnant, not to kill their children. We
can not stop abortion any more than we can stop the other forms of murder,
but we should be punishing those that do.
Post by The Ghost In The Machine
--
It's still legal to go .sigless.
David W. Barnes
2006-01-15 18:49:40 UTC
Permalink
Post by Billy
Post by The Ghost In The Machine
[1] abortion is cold-blooded murder (for the sake of argument),
[2] it must be stopped (ditto),
[3] women have rights (and one would certainly hope so!) as outlined
in the US constitution,
[3] doctors have rights
how did you propose to stop abortions?
Women have the right not to get pregnant, not to kill their children. We
can not stop abortion any more than we can stop the other forms of murder,
but we should be punishing those that do.
How do we do that? What punishment?
Erasmus "The Mannequin" Brown
2006-01-15 23:49:16 UTC
Permalink
Post by David W. Barnes
Post by Billy
Post by The Ghost In The Machine
[1] abortion is cold-blooded murder (for the sake of argument),
[2] it must be stopped (ditto),
[3] women have rights (and one would certainly hope so!) as outlined
in the US constitution,
[3] doctors have rights
how did you propose to stop abortions?
Women have the right not to get pregnant, not to kill their children.
We
Post by David W. Barnes
Post by Billy
can not stop abortion any more than we can stop the other forms of murder,
but we should be punishing those that do.
How do we do that? What punishment?
Apparently, he condones killing doctors who perform abortions.
james g. keegan jr.
2006-01-16 00:01:29 UTC
Permalink
Post by Erasmus "The Mannequin" Brown
Post by David W. Barnes
Post by Billy
Post by The Ghost In The Machine
how did you propose to stop abortions?
Women have the right not to get pregnant, not to kill their
children. We can not stop abortion any more than we can stop
the other forms of murder, but we should be punishing those
that do.
How do we do that? What punishment?
Apparently, he condones killing doctors who perform abortions.
he must be a christian.
Billy
2006-01-16 01:44:47 UTC
Permalink
Post by Billy
Post by David W. Barnes
Post by Billy
Post by The Ghost In The Machine
[1] abortion is cold-blooded murder (for the sake of argument),
[2] it must be stopped (ditto),
[3] women have rights (and one would certainly hope so!) as outlined
in the US constitution,
[3] doctors have rights
how did you propose to stop abortions?
Women have the right not to get pregnant, not to kill their children.
We
Post by David W. Barnes
Post by Billy
can not stop abortion any more than we can stop the other forms of
murder,
Post by David W. Barnes
Post by Billy
but we should be punishing those that do.
How do we do that? What punishment?
Apparently, he condones killing doctors who perform abortions.
lethal injection
David W. Barnes
2006-01-16 02:26:59 UTC
Permalink
Post by Billy
Post by David W. Barnes
Post by Billy
Post by The Ghost In The Machine
[1] abortion is cold-blooded murder (for the sake of argument),
[2] it must be stopped (ditto),
[3] women have rights (and one would certainly hope so!) as outlined
in the US constitution,
[3] doctors have rights
how did you propose to stop abortions?
Women have the right not to get pregnant, not to kill their children.
We
Post by David W. Barnes
Post by Billy
can not stop abortion any more than we can stop the other forms of
murder,
Post by David W. Barnes
Post by Billy
but we should be punishing those that do.
How do we do that? What punishment?
Apparently, he condones killing doctors who perform abortions.
"pro-life"
Billy
2006-01-16 01:44:15 UTC
Permalink
Post by David W. Barnes
Post by Billy
Post by The Ghost In The Machine
[1] abortion is cold-blooded murder (for the sake of argument),
[2] it must be stopped (ditto),
[3] women have rights (and one would certainly hope so!) as outlined
in the US constitution,
[3] doctors have rights
how did you propose to stop abortions?
Women have the right not to get pregnant, not to kill their children. We
can not stop abortion any more than we can stop the other forms of murder,
but we should be punishing those that do.
How do we do that? What punishment?
same as other murders.
David W. Barnes
2006-01-16 02:27:00 UTC
Permalink
Post by Billy
Post by David W. Barnes
Post by Billy
Post by The Ghost In The Machine
[1] abortion is cold-blooded murder (for the sake of argument),
[2] it must be stopped (ditto),
[3] women have rights (and one would certainly hope so!) as outlined
in the US constitution,
[3] doctors have rights
how did you propose to stop abortions?
Women have the right not to get pregnant, not to kill their children. We
can not stop abortion any more than we can stop the other forms of murder,
but we should be punishing those that do.
How do we do that? What punishment?
same as other murders.
Except this isn't murder, dumb ass.
The Ghost In The Machine
2006-01-15 22:00:09 UTC
Permalink
In talk.abortion, Billy
<***@cox.net>
wrote
on Sun, 15 Jan 2006 10:48:20 -0800
Post by Billy
Post by The Ghost In The Machine
In talk.abortion, Billy
on Sun, 15 Jan 2006 07:50:46 -0800
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Enjoyed seeing that babykilling abortionist get whacked on TNT's Law
and
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Order tonight.
The face of "Pro-Life".
The face of "right to choose"
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/PBA_Images/PBA4.BMP
Pro-liar porn.
Stop projecting, your type are screwed in the head, pro-death jackass.
Here's
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'Pro-choicers' clap after partial-birth abortion
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35123
There's no such medical term as "partia-birth abortion."
Nor should there be, medical terms are relating to procedures meant to heal,
not kill.
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/PBA_Images/PBA_Images_Heathers_Place.htm
[1] abortion is cold-blooded murder (for the sake of argument),
[2] it must be stopped (ditto),
[3] women have rights (and one would certainly hope so!) as outlined
in the US constitution,
[3] doctors have rights
how did you propose to stop abortions?
Women have the right not to get pregnant, not to kill their children. We
can not stop abortion any more than we can stop the other forms of murder,
but we should be punishing those that do.
So the issue is less regarding prevention and more
regarding punishment?

But OK. Would 5 years be enough? Roe v. Wade struck
down a Texas statute that stipulated that punishment
for any doctor performing an abortion on a willing woman
(it's fairly unlikely doctors would perform abortions on
nonwilling women!). Footnote 1 of the decision
details Articles 1191 through 1194, and Article 1196, of
then-Texas Code (specifically Title 15, Chapter 9, which
no longer exists as such; Chapter 9 is now under Title 2
and serves a completely different purpose).

http://www.tourolaw.edu/patch/Roe/

is as good as any, but there are a lot of copies
of Roe v. Wade running about.

19.02(b)(1) might be construed to apply to an abortion doctor;
since 1.07(a)(2) (which defines the term "individual") includes
gestating foetuses. However, since Federal case law supercedes,
it's unlikely anyone's been prosecuted since 1973.

http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/statutes/pe.toc.htm

More extreme punishments can be stipulated; Texas
law allows for capital penalties in Section 12.31.
Considering that Texas law also categorizes same-sex
intercourse as a Class C misdemeanor, one wonders.
There are also provisions for "dry areas" in the Alcoholic
Beverage Code, as well as the interesting restriction
in 105.01 through 105.05, which broadly put does not
allow sales or delivery of beverages on Sunday morning,
or on New Year's Day, Thanksgiving Day, or Christmas Day.
An interesting problem for truckers who arrive at 9:01 pm
to attempt delivery.

California law, which is the law I'm most familiar with,
allows for life imprisonment or even death, if there are
special circumstances.

These are carefully enumerated in the law, and include
such things as killing policemen and other employees of
the State (190.2(a)(7) through (13)), using poison
(190.2(a)(19), or especially heinous and gruesome deaths
(190.2(a)(14)). They also include this little gem, 190.2(a)(1):

190.2. (a) The penalty for a defendant who is found guilty of
murder in the first degree is death or imprisonment in the state
prison for life without the possibility of parole if one or more of
the following special circumstances has been found under Section
190.4 to be true:
(1) The murder was intentional and carried out for financial
gain.

This means that, if abortion be deemed murder somewhere
in this Code (currently it is not because of 187(b)(1)
through (3), if such apply), that a doctor may be eligible
for the death penalty if he performs one abortion without
an "out". The piece presumably is intended to prevent
Mob/Mafioso/gangster/gangsta style killings, but, like
Federal RICO statutes, can be used for other purposes.

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/calaw.html
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=pen&group=00001-01000&file=187-199

)

So....I reask the above question. How do you propose to
stop abortions? Brighter legal minds than mine (I'm a
software engineer, not a lawyer!) have grappled with this
question, with interesting results, and the legal detrius
resulting therefrom is often on the Web -- or at any good
law library. Pick a state; nowadays its Codes are on the
Web, in some form.

(One of the problems with legal searches on the Web: I
don't know which articles are valid and which have been
struck down by Federal or State case law. There are also
the usual transcription issues; a slip of the finger while
typing in that Webpage might prove very problematic. This
is why lawyers are so busy and charge so much, I guess. :-) )
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In talk.abortion, Billy
on Sun, 15 Jan 2006 10:48:20 -0800
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In talk.abortion, Billy
on Sun, 15 Jan 2006 07:50:46 -0800
Post by Billy
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Enjoyed seeing that babykilling abortionist get whacked on TNT's Law
and
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Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Billy
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by Rev. Donald Spitz
Order tonight.
The face of "Pro-Life".
The face of "right to choose"
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/PBA_Images/PBA4.BMP
Pro-liar porn.
Stop projecting, your type are screwed in the head, pro-death jackass.
Here's
Post by r***@can.oza
'Pro-choicers' clap after partial-birth abortion
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35123
There's no such medical term as "partia-birth abortion."
Nor should there be, medical terms are relating to procedures meant to heal,
not kill.
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/PBA_Images/PBA_Images_Heathers_Place.htm
[1] abortion is cold-blooded murder (for the sake of argument),
[2] it must be stopped (ditto),
[3] women have rights (and one would certainly hope so!) as outlined
in the US constitution,
[3] doctors have rights
how did you propose to stop abortions?
Women have the right not to get pregnant, not to kill their children. We
can not stop abortion any more than we can stop the other forms of murder,
but we should be punishing those that do.
So the issue is less regarding prevention and more
regarding punishment?
Punishment for a crime is a deterrent for a crime, how many banks do you
think would have money if bank robbery was legal?
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But OK. Would 5 years be enough?
In some cases, perhaps, I would judge each case separately.

Roe v. Wade struck
Post by The Ghost In The Machine
down a Texas statute that stipulated that punishment
for any doctor performing an abortion on a willing woman
(it's fairly unlikely doctors would perform abortions on
nonwilling women!). Footnote 1 of the decision
details Articles 1191 through 1194, and Article 1196, of
then-Texas Code (specifically Title 15, Chapter 9, which
no longer exists as such; Chapter 9 is now under Title 2
and serves a completely different purpose).
http://www.tourolaw.edu/patch/Roe/
is as good as any, but there are a lot of copies
of Roe v. Wade running about.
19.02(b)(1) might be construed to apply to an abortion doctor;
since 1.07(a)(2) (which defines the term "individual") includes
gestating foetuses. However, since Federal case law supercedes,
it's unlikely anyone's been prosecuted since 1973.
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/statutes/pe.toc.htm
More extreme punishments can be stipulated; Texas
law allows for capital penalties in Section 12.31.
Considering that Texas law also categorizes same-sex
intercourse as a Class C misdemeanor, one wonders.
There are also provisions for "dry areas" in the Alcoholic
Beverage Code, as well as the interesting restriction
in 105.01 through 105.05, which broadly put does not
allow sales or delivery of beverages on Sunday morning,
or on New Year's Day, Thanksgiving Day, or Christmas Day.
An interesting problem for truckers who arrive at 9:01 pm
to attempt delivery.
California law, which is the law I'm most familiar with,
allows for life imprisonment or even death, if there are
special circumstances.
These are carefully enumerated in the law, and include
such things as killing policemen and other employees of
the State (190.2(a)(7) through (13)), using poison
(190.2(a)(19), or especially heinous and gruesome deaths
190.2. (a) The penalty for a defendant who is found guilty of
murder in the first degree is death or imprisonment in the state
prison for life without the possibility of parole if one or more of
the following special circumstances has been found under Section
(1) The murder was intentional and carried out for financial
gain.
This means that, if abortion be deemed murder somewhere
in this Code (currently it is not because of 187(b)(1)
through (3), if such apply), that a doctor may be eligible
for the death penalty if he performs one abortion without
an "out". The piece presumably is intended to prevent
Mob/Mafioso/gangster/gangsta style killings, but, like
Federal RICO statutes, can be used for other purposes.
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/calaw.html
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=pen&group=00001-01000&file=187-199
)
So....I reask the above question. How do you propose to
stop abortions?
We can't stop jay walking or any other crime, I do not pretend to be able to
stop abortions.

Brighter legal minds than mine (I'm a
Post by The Ghost In The Machine
software engineer, not a lawyer!) have grappled with this
question, with interesting results, and the legal detrius
resulting therefrom is often on the Web -- or at any good
law library. Pick a state; nowadays its Codes are on the
Web, in some form.
What's your point?
Post by The Ghost In The Machine
(One of the problems with legal searches on the Web: I
don't know which articles are valid and which have been
struck down by Federal or State case law. There are also
the usual transcription issues; a slip of the finger while
typing in that Webpage might prove very problematic. This
is why lawyers are so busy and charge so much, I guess. :-) )
Since we are talking about making something illegal that is currently legal,
I don't see your point.
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Enjoyed seeing that babykilling abortionist get whacked on TNT's Law and Order tonight.
The face of "Pro-Life".
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Enjoyed seeing that babykilling abortionist get whacked on TNT's Law and
Order tonight. That babykilling abortionist reaped what she sowed.
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2006-01-08 23:01:16 UTC
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Barrnabas Collins
2006-01-09 23:33:41 UTC
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One thing I would point out Republicans would throw a woman in jail
for getting an abortion, prosecute doctors who perform abortions,
but let a child die when a corporation dumps some toxic crap in the
ground and republicans will trip over themselves to give the
corporation a tax break, make it illegal to prosecute them.

So corporations have the freedom to kill all they want.....be
it dumping toxic crap in the ground, producing dangerous
products they are selling, etc.
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One thing I would point out Republicans would throw a woman in jail
for getting an abortion,
True I would, must be something in my past, I was raised killing your own
baby is a bad thing.

prosecute doctors who perform abortions,

True, guilty as charged, Killing babies is a bad thing.
Post by Barrnabas Collins
but let a child die when a corporation dumps some toxic crap in the
ground
Not Guilty, prove your case.

and republicans will trip over themselves to give the
Post by Barrnabas Collins
corporation a tax break,
Sure they bring in Jobs and help the economy, more than the taxes collected,
it's called smart Business.


make it illegal to prosecute them.

Not guilty, Prove your case.
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So corporations have the freedom to kill all they want.....be
it dumping toxic crap in the ground, producing dangerous
products they are selling, etc.
Souds like you didn't have milk before your bed-time story.
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2006-01-10 00:48:08 UTC
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True, guilty as charged, Killing babies is a bad thing.
Post by Barrnabas Collins
but let a child die when a corporation dumps some toxic crap in the
ground
Not Guilty, prove your case.
In case you haven't noticed some kids have cancer now becaiuse they
played in their yard.....a yard that 50+ years ago had toxic junk
dumped into the ground by the gas station that was there
or factory that was on that site.

I don't see the pro life people chasing that corporation
as fervently as they chase a woman who has an abortion.
Post by Billy
and republicans will trip over themselves to give the
Post by Barrnabas Collins
corporation a tax break,
Sure they bring in Jobs and help the economy, more than the taxes collected,
it's called smart Business.
So by your logic you'll excuse a serial killer who kills 25 people if
he provides jobs to some people.

So all Jeffry Dahmer had to do to escape being punished was
to provide a few jobs?

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2006-01-10 01:16:49 UTC
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Post by Billy
True, guilty as charged, Killing babies is a bad thing.
Post by Barrnabas Collins
but let a child die when a corporation dumps some toxic crap in the
ground
Not Guilty, prove your case.
In case you haven't noticed some kids have cancer now becaiuse they
played in their yard.....a yard that 50+ years ago had toxic junk
dumped into the ground by the gas station that was there
or factory that was on that site.
we have learned a few things from 50 years ago. We still think killing
babbies is okay, so we still have a ways to go.
Post by Barrnabas Collins
I don't see the pro life people chasing that corporation
as fervently as they chase a woman who has an abortion.
That is a long way off from your original assertion.
Post by Barrnabas Collins
Post by Billy
and republicans will trip over themselves to give the
Post by Barrnabas Collins
corporation a tax break,
Sure they bring in Jobs and help the economy, more than the taxes collected,
it's called smart Business.
So by your logic you'll excuse a serial killer who kills 25 people if
he provides jobs to some people.
So all Jeffry Dahmer had to do to escape being punished was
to provide a few jobs?
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2006-01-10 01:33:36 UTC
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Post by Barrnabas Collins
Post by Billy
True, guilty as charged, Killing babies is a bad thing.
Post by Barrnabas Collins
but let a child die when a corporation dumps some toxic crap in the
ground
Not Guilty, prove your case.
In case you haven't noticed some kids have cancer now becaiuse they
played in their yard.....a yard that 50+ years ago had toxic junk
dumped into the ground by the gas station that was there
or factory that was on that site.
we have learned a few things from 50 years ago. We still think killing
babbies is okay, so we still have a ways to go.
Post by Barrnabas Collins
I don't see the pro life people chasing that corporation
as fervently as they chase a woman who has an abortion.
That is a long way off from your original assertion.
Post by Barrnabas Collins
Post by Billy
and republicans will trip over themselves to give the
Post by Barrnabas Collins
corporation a tax break,
Sure they bring in Jobs and help the economy, more than the taxes collected,
it's called smart Business.
So by your logic you'll excuse a serial killer who kills 25 people if
he provides jobs to some people.
You are not very good with logic. With my logic a serial killer may get a
tax break if he provides jobs to some people.
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Post by Barrnabas Collins
So all Jeffry Dahmer had to do to escape being punished was
to provide a few jobs?
No
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2006-01-10 02:42:15 UTC
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Post by Billy
Post by Barrnabas Collins
Post by Billy
True, guilty as charged, Killing babies is a bad thing.
Post by Barrnabas Collins
but let a child die when a corporation dumps some toxic crap in the
ground
Not Guilty, prove your case.
In case you haven't noticed some kids have cancer now becaiuse they
played in their yard.....a yard that 50+ years ago had toxic junk
dumped into the ground by the gas station that was there
or factory that was on that site.
we have learned a few things from 50 years ago. We still think killing
babbies is okay, so we still have a ways to go.
No, we do not think that killing "babbies" is okay. That's just
pro-liar insanity.
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Barrnabas Collins
2006-01-10 20:51:14 UTC
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Post by Billy
Post by Barrnabas Collins
I don't see the pro life people chasing that corporation
as fervently as they chase a woman who has an abortion.
That is a long way off from your original assertion.
The CEO of the company that makes Vioxx can kill 29,000-
55,000 with it's drug and nobody goes to jail but let one
woman want to get an abortion and people like you want
to toss them in jail.

So your asseriton is if you provide a few jobs you have a license to
kill.
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2006-01-10 21:11:21 UTC
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Post by Billy
Post by Barrnabas Collins
I don't see the pro life people chasing that corporation
as fervently as they chase a woman who has an abortion.
That is a long way off from your original assertion.
The CEO of the company that makes Vioxx can kill 29,000-
55,000 with it's drug and nobody goes to jail but let one
woman want to get an abortion and people like you want
to toss them in jail.
So your asseriton is if you provide a few jobs you have a license to
kill.
No my assertion is provide a few jobs you get a tax break. Not very bright
are you?
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2006-01-10 07:55:06 UTC
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Post by Barrnabas Collins
Post by Billy
True, guilty as charged, Killing babies is a bad thing.
Post by Barrnabas Collins
but let a child die when a corporation dumps some toxic crap in the
ground
Not Guilty, prove your case.
In case you haven't noticed some kids have cancer now becaiuse they
played in their yard.....a yard that 50+ years ago had toxic junk
dumped into the ground by the gas station that was there
or factory that was on that site.
I don't see the pro life people chasing that corporation
as fervently as they chase a woman who has an abortion.
Post by Billy
and republicans will trip over themselves to give the
Post by Barrnabas Collins
corporation a tax break,
Sure they bring in Jobs and help the economy, more than the taxes collected,
it's called smart Business.
So by your logic you'll excuse a serial killer who kills 25 people if
he provides jobs to some people.
With special consideration for those who eat their victims because they
require fewer public resources to clean up after them.
70AD
2006-01-10 14:43:10 UTC
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On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 19:48:08 -0500, Barrnabas Collins
Post by Barrnabas Collins
Post by Billy
True, guilty as charged, Killing babies is a bad thing.
Post by Barrnabas Collins
but let a child die when a corporation dumps some toxic crap in the
ground
Not Guilty, prove your case.
In case you haven't noticed some kids have cancer now becaiuse they
played in their yard.....a yard that 50+ years ago had toxic junk
dumped into the ground by the gas station that was there
or factory that was on that site.
I don't see the pro life people chasing that corporation
That's because "Pro-Life" is about convincing women
that not killing their babies is the right way to go.
There are other organizations that handle the issues
that you mentioned and they do not get involved in
abortion issues. Your statement makes no sense and
was just a desperate attempt to avoid the issue and
to try to get people to focus on a non-issue.
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Revelation 1:1,3

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gave unto him, to show unto his servants things
WHICH MUST SHORTLY COME TO PASS; and he sent and
signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
2) Who bare record of the word of God, and of
the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things
that he saw.
3) Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear
the words of this prophecy, and keep those things
which are written therein: for THE TIME IS AT HAND.
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2006-01-10 17:49:37 UTC
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On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 19:48:08 -0500, Barrnabas Collins
Post by Barrnabas Collins
Post by Billy
True, guilty as charged, Killing babies is a bad thing.
Post by Barrnabas Collins
but let a child die when a corporation dumps some toxic crap in the
ground
Not Guilty, prove your case.
In case you haven't noticed some kids have cancer now becaiuse they
played in their yard.....a yard that 50+ years ago had toxic junk
dumped into the ground by the gas station that was there
or factory that was on that site.
I don't see the pro life people chasing that corporation
That's because "Pro-Life" is about convincing women
that not killing their babies is the right way to go.
"Pro-Life" is about making sure that women who have sex be made to
suffer. Everything else is propaganda.
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Erasmus "The Mannequin" Brown
2006-01-11 02:29:27 UTC
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Post by Billy
Post by Barrnabas Collins
One thing I would point out Republicans would throw a woman in jail
for getting an abortion,
True I would, must be something in my past, I was raised killing your own
baby is a bad thing.
prosecute doctors who perform abortions,
True, guilty as charged, Killing babies is a bad thing.
Performing an abortion is not killing a baby.
Deopatra
2006-01-14 20:28:07 UTC
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X-No-archive: yes

Billy, don't even waste your breath on these morally bankrupt socialist
street urchins. Once you grasp that their *morality,* their spiritual
values such as they are, are now inextricably woven into their
socialist worldview, then it makes sense that they would much on a
pizza while millions of infants are slain in their mothers' wombs and
get almost religiously hysterical over someone lowering taxes and
actually fighting those who want to kill us.

All *evil* to these people now resides in their Communistic politics,
thus it's natural for them to kill babies like they're so much garbage
while crying copious tears over one single murderous bastard on death
row. They look at everything in terms of class struggle, and when you
*think* like this evil bastards like Clinton become heroes and decent
men like Bush are reviled - right along with every Republican voter in
the country.

Cleopatra
marika
2006-01-15 01:06:52 UTC
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Post by Deopatra
Once you grasp that their *morality,* their spiritual
values such as they are, are now inextricably woven into their
socialist worldview, then it makes sense that they would much on a
pizza while millions of infants are slain in their mothers' wombs and
get almost religiously hysterical over someone lowering taxes and
actually fighting those who want to kill us.
why munchies are dangerous

mk5000

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and didn't know it? well what do yoy say if you say something free verse by
accident/ i'm a poet and i never realized that"--sarah silverman
Barrnabas Collins
2006-01-09 23:44:08 UTC
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When it comes to abortion I always like to quote Barney
Frank:

"Republicans believe that life begins at conception and
ends at birth."

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2006-01-10 00:16:46 UTC
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When it comes to abortion I always like to quote Barney
"Republicans believe that life begins at conception and
ends at birth."
I like to quote Liberals, "Who the fuck cares, just tell her to have an
abortion"
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2006-01-13 12:45:15 UTC
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When it comes to abortion I always like to quote Barney
"Republicans believe that life begins at conception and
ends at birth."
I like to quote Liberals, "Who the fuck cares, just tell her to have an
abortion"
Exactly which "liberal" are you quoting here, Billy boy? Sounds more
like the young Dubya to me.
Billy
2006-01-13 15:51:12 UTC
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Post by Barrnabas Collins
When it comes to abortion I always like to quote Barney
"Republicans believe that life begins at conception and
ends at birth."
I like to quote Liberals, "Who the fuck cares, just tell her to have an
abortion"
Exactly which "liberal" are you quoting here, Billy boy? Sounds more like
the young Dubya to me.
Most of them
Sparky Spartacus
2006-01-14 01:09:52 UTC
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Post by Billy
Post by Barrnabas Collins
When it comes to abortion I always like to quote Barney
"Republicans believe that life begins at conception and
ends at birth."
I like to quote Liberals, "Who the fuck cares, just tell her to have an
abortion"
Exactly which "liberal" are you quoting here, Billy boy? Sounds more like
the young Dubya to me.
Most of them
Right, name any 6.
Billy
2006-01-14 01:46:47 UTC
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Post by Billy
Post by Billy
Post by Barrnabas Collins
When it comes to abortion I always like to quote Barney
"Republicans believe that life begins at conception and
ends at birth."
I like to quote Liberals, "Who the fuck cares, just tell her to have an
abortion"
Exactly which "liberal" are you quoting here, Billy boy? Sounds more like
the young Dubya to me.
Most of them
Right, name any 6.
Curley, Larry Moe, Gilligan, Barney and Howdy Duty.
Erasmus "The Mannequin" Brown
2006-01-14 08:10:27 UTC
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Post by Barrnabas Collins
When it comes to abortion I always like to quote Barney
"Republicans believe that life begins at conception and
ends at birth."
I like to quote Liberals, "Who the fuck cares, just tell her to have an
abortion"
Exactly which "liberal" are you quoting here, Billy boy? Sounds more like
the young Dubya to me.
Most of them
Right, name any 6.
Curley, Larry Moe, Gilligan, Barney and Howdy Duty.
As Harlan Ellison would say, crazy as a soup sandwich.
Sparky Spartacus
2006-01-14 12:49:44 UTC
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When it comes to abortion I always like to quote Barney
"Republicans believe that life begins at conception and
ends at birth."
I like to quote Liberals, "Who the fuck cares, just tell her to have
an
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abortion"
Exactly which "liberal" are you quoting here, Billy boy? Sounds more
like
Post by Billy
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Post by Billy
Post by Sparky Spartacus
the young Dubya to me.
Most of them
Right, name any 6.
Curley, Larry Moe, Gilligan, Barney and Howdy Duty.
As Harlan Ellison would say, crazy as a soup sandwich.
LOL, gold ol' Harlan!
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